Oh yes those were the days ay Phil? I remember doing a Z80 uP board with about 80 to 100 devices on it and using clad Vector board with a pad cutter. Now talk about design and planning! I placed all the IC's and discretes on the board, marked all the locations that needed to be cut from the plane, put the pads free, then reinstalled the pars and soldered them in place. Oh yes, THEN I started the wire-wrap part. The best WW gun I had was the Standard Pneumatic with their CSW bits. Little did I know that later I would work for the parent company of them and designed a board or two for them also. Oh what fun we had... :-) Later... -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Nutting Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 7:06 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] NTC - RE: [TN] Wire wrap? Now that takes my back to my youth. I had to build wire wrap boards by hand, interconnecting about 100 devices with hand operated wire wrap guns. Ah, those were the days. Phil -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of McGlaughlin, Jeffrey A Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:52 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Wire wrap? Gardner-Denver is a name I haven't heard in 3-life times. Many moons ago when I worked as a mechanical designer they were a competitor for the automation equipment company I worked for. I think that they divested themselves of all but the pumps and compressors unit in the late 80's but are still in business. You might be able to contact them and get a lead on who owns that part of their old businesses. Sorry, I can't help further. Jeffrey McGlaughlin, CID Engineering Designer Battelle 505 King Avenue Columbus Ohio 43201-2693 (614)424-7582 Phone (614)458-7582 Fax -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Graham Collins Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:15 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Wire wrap? Hello Technet! Wire Wrap - no, this is not a NCT joke. We've been asked to look at building some of a pretty old system. The only problem is the backplane - it uses wire wrap, about 800 wires - so we would not enjoy doing it manually. We've got a machine for the x-y locating, an EPC Technology 14/YA that for some reason we call a Gardner Denver, but it hasn't been used in about 10 years and there's nobody left here who knows how to program it. Is anyone on Technet familiar with such a machine? It's got the floppy drive option, but I can't find any floppy disks for it - just paper tapes. If I could even get my hands on a copy of a valid program I could probably figure out how to make it work. I'm not up for reverse engineering the paper tapes though... 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