Don, Section 3.3 of IPC-A-620 is specifically about birdcaging. However, it does not show the wire in a solder cup termination. Phil -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dale Ritzen Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:01 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Birdcaging Hi Don, Even though it doesn't have a direct explanation of, or picture of, the exact scenario you mentioned below, IPC-A-610D does cover "birdcaging" in section 6.9.2, under the heading of "Strand Separation". I would expect the same criteria to apply to a solder junction using stranded wire on bifurcated, slotted and cupped type terminals. However, possibly someone else out there has a more definitive answer and source for the answer... Dale Ritzen Quality Manager Austin Manufacturing Services -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Donald Vischulis Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:13 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Birdcaging Can anyone supply a description of accept/reject criteria for birdcaging on stranded wire being soldered into a cup type terminal? Which specification contains the criteria? Thanks, Don Vischulis --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------