Hi John, Werner, IPC LF Listservers, Oh Well, even though this was private it has now been public, and I see no harm in asking my question. If i did I wouldn't ask. <======= Werner, I am speaking there tonight at the IEEE dinner. Be there, the presentation will be a call for action.................. IEEE will be posting it to their web site after the talk. <======== John, or maybe Harvey, or even Joe is this the IEEE Santa Clara group and would you mind giving us the link to download John's talk in powerpoint or pdf. Yours in Engineering, Dave YiEngr, MA/NY DDave -------------------------------------------------------------------------------Leadfee Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Leadfree To temporarily stop/(start) delivery of Leadree for vacation breaks send: SET Leadfree NOMAIL/(MAIL) Search previous postings at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------