Thanks for the copy of the article. You know, I may have read it back in 1998 but was too busy working to do anything with it other than file it with all my old magazines... (I'm a hopeless pack rat) Of course Mary Sugden's input into anything makes it terrific, she is a great teacher and very knowledgeable. I'm not sure who Mona Johnson is but she is named co-author with Mary in the article. Maybe someone can expand on that... So they break it down into 5 categories in the PCD article. PCB Designer/drafter Junior PCB Designer PCB Designer Senior PCB Designer PCB Design Engineer I'm sure that is the way it was in 1998. We had 'Junior Drafters', 'Document clerks', 'Senior Drafters', and 'Designers' in places where I worked. It really hasn't changed a whole lot since then but there are a few more categories I think we could add to it... Maybe the survey that I used to get the descriptions I put on my website was attempting to be more sensitive to 'class distinctions' and used level 1,2,3 categories instead of junior, senior, etc... to describe the skill/competency levels. I think CAD librarian needs to be defined and is definitely 'PCB Design' related. Actually it is sort of a specialist type job that supports the designers as a group... Does anyone have a description of that position available? Do you think that there are any other positions that should be a part of the list? Best regards, Bill Brooks - KG6VVP PCB Design Engineer, C.I.D.+, C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 Datron World Communications, Inc. _______________________________________ San Diego Chapter of the IPC Designers Council Communications Officer, Web Manager http://dcchapters.ipc.org/SanDiego/ http://pcbwizards.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL) Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------