Hi John! As an avid waterfowl hunter I can personally attest to the poor ballistic properties of Bi shot - it works much better than steel shot but the ammunition metallurgical folks are doing some pretty nifty things with tungsten and other alloy combinations. Dave Hillman Rockwell Collins [log in to unmask] John Maxwell <[log in to unmask] M> To Sent by: TechNet [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> cc Subject 11/18/2005 12:48 Re: [TN] EU Lead hysteria PM Please respond to TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]> ; Please respond to John Maxwell <[log in to unmask] M> ALLEN, Actually most military bullets around the world use a steel core for penetration. Either a gilding metal (cupre nickel) or iron/soft steel jacket is used to protect the bore from the hardened steel core. Bismuth has only been used in shot for water fowl but is being replace by either iron or tungsten alloys for shot. Lead is still used as a bullet core for most commercial rifle and pistol ammunition. John Maxwell >Bullets? > >The respectable Ms. Hwang indicates that bismuth has replaced lead in >bullets - > >"Green bullets using Bi to replace Pb, making Pb-free combat-ready >cartridges" > >fwiw > >Loa > > > --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------