He opened up one of Deac's links. Dewey -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tempea, Ioan Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:47 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning How'd you get in? Ioan > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kane, Christopher > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:43 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning > > How do I get off of this forum??? > > Christopher J Kane > Mechanical Engineering > Lockheed Martin Systems Integration > 1801 State Route 17c Owego, NY 13827-3994 Telephone (607) 751-6213 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey > (AZ75) > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:37 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning > > > So to you it's just icing on the cake. > Dewey > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Nutting > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 9:40 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning > > When your hair line in the front starts to get close to the hole in > the back, that is called a fivehead not a forehead. The good Lord > only made a few perfect heads and the rest he/she covered with hair. > My head is more perfect each year. > > Not only is it ice hockey, but womens ice hockey. These girls (ages > 18 to 50+) are amazing to watch. Can't get enough of it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Deac Descoteaux > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:04 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning > > Gee! I used to cook in my younger days too.....short > order............... I make my own sausages her in New England. I put > only the best ingredients into my sausages....My hair is a good French > Canadian 54 year old gray hair with a large forehead and a large > circle in the back. Did you say ice hockey???????????????????? Now > your talking! > > Enjoy the weekend! > > How are things at RC??? Busy? > > Deac > Work phone: (603) 886-8711 ext.202 > Cell : (603) 557-7568 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas O. Pauls > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:54 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning > > Yippee. I've been validated!!!! Nose grease, now there's a great > image a Friday morning. > > I did work as a cook and dishwasher in a fine restaurant in my earlier > years. You are correct. I am fond of the quote that those who enjoy > sausage and legislation should not view their making. Or something > like that. > > My hair is a good Norse blonde, a respectable amount left for a 46 > year old, though I am told the forehead is growing and that little > circle in back is growing. > > A wife who plays ice hockey? Cool (no pun intended). Do you both > have a "cross checking" account. Some days I just slay me........ > > Doug Pauls > > > > > Phil Nutting > <PNutting@KAISERS > YSTEMS.COM> > To > Sent by: TechNet [log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]> > cc > > > Subject > 09/09/2005 07:13 [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean > AM before cleaning > > > Please respond to > TechNet E-Mail > Forum > <[log in to unmask]> > ; Please respond > to > Phil Nutting > <PNutting@KAISERS > YSTEMS.COM> > > > > > > > Doug's point about the gloves getting easily contaminated by nose > grease is valid. I've watched people working in a "clean area" do just that. > Now carry that one step further... Been to a restaurant lately? What > do you think the working environment is like in the kitchen? Just > thinking about it is turning my stomach. To "protect" the customers > from human> bodily goo one would have to wear some sort of NASA suit. > I find that after several good ales or vodkas I have completely > forgotten about this detail and start to enjoy my meal. > > Doug, you have hair left on your head? What is that like? > > Happy weekend. Can't wait for 4:30. Going to the wife's ice hockey > tournament. Woohoo! > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phillip Bavaro > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:59 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] Clean before cleaning > > If my memory serves me correctly, the blue nitrile gloves causes too > much sweating of the hands, and we chose to supply anti-static PVC > clean room gloves instead (ISO Class 3 Compatible, Sealed Bag). > > In reality, the operators in non-chemical applications typically > prefer to wear the cotton gloves with fingercots on top of them for > their comfort and dexterity. > > Fingerprints alone are a valid reason to wear gloves for post cleaned > deliverable hardware, but engineering labs typically handle hardware > without wearing gloves. > > For the ultimate in operator comfort, I have always liked the cotton > knit stretch gloves with the ESD vinyl coating on the palm of the > glove, but never actually implemented it due to the cost (although it > has come down quite a bit over the years). > > > > "Stadem, Richard" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I happen to think that the blue nitrile gloves are best for handling > pwb's and components. > I do not know if they present any outgassing or chlorinating issues. > I do know they will not snag on lead protrusions and other hardware, > inadvertently causing dropped assemblies. White cotton gloves snag > like crazy. > However, the blue nitrile gloves cannot be used on boards that are hot. > They have no insulative properties. > They tend to not absorb fluxes and chemicals, but they do get dirty > and need to be thrown and replaced periodically. > The blue nitrile gloves protect the operator's hands from chemical > exposure. White cotton gloves retain chemicals and prevent evaporation > from the operator's skin. > The blue nitrile gloves are available in ESD-safe type. I don't think > the white gloves are. > For these reasons I prefer the blue nitrile gloves. But the operators > prefer the white cotton gloves, as they are more comfortable than the > blue nitrile, especially if you have hairy hands like mine. Too bad > more of it does not grow on the top of my head. > But then maybe thats why I don't come up with all of those > hair-brained ideas like others I work with! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tempea, Ioan > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:38 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [TN] Clean before cleaning > > Technos, > > the question is whether to wear or not to wear gloves on assemblies > that will be washed. I am fully aware of the solderability problems > that can occur without gloves, so let's stick strictly to the > post-wash contamination. > > And in the same key, Doug was talking about not using white gloves > that have chlorines due to bleaching. 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