When your hair line in the front starts to get close to the hole in the back, that is called a fivehead not a forehead. The good Lord only made a few perfect heads and the rest he/she covered with hair. My head is more perfect each year. Not only is it ice hockey, but womens ice hockey. These girls (ages 18 to 50+) are amazing to watch. Can't get enough of it. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Deac Descoteaux Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:04 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning Gee! I used to cook in my younger days too.....short order............... I make my own sausages her in New England. I put only the best ingredients into my sausages....My hair is a good French Canadian 54 year old gray hair with a large forehead and a large circle in the back. Did you say ice hockey???????????????????? Now your talking! Enjoy the weekend! How are things at RC??? Busy? Deac Work phone: (603) 886-8711 ext.202 Cell : (603) 557-7568 -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas O. Pauls Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:54 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean before cleaning Yippee. I've been validated!!!! Nose grease, now there's a great image a Friday morning. I did work as a cook and dishwasher in a fine restaurant in my earlier years. You are correct. I am fond of the quote that those who enjoy sausage and legislation should not view their making. Or something like that. My hair is a good Norse blonde, a respectable amount left for a 46 year old, though I am told the forehead is growing and that little circle in back is growing. A wife who plays ice hockey? Cool (no pun intended). Do you both have a "cross checking" account. Some days I just slay me........ Doug Pauls Phil Nutting <PNutting@KAISERS YSTEMS.COM> To Sent by: TechNet [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> cc Subject 09/09/2005 07:13 [TN] Friday NTC - RE: [TN] Clean AM before cleaning Please respond to TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]> ; Please respond to Phil Nutting <PNutting@KAISERS YSTEMS.COM> Doug's point about the gloves getting easily contaminated by nose grease is valid. I've watched people working in a "clean area" do just that. Now carry that one step further... Been to a restaurant lately? What do you think the working environment is like in the kitchen? Just thinking about it is turning my stomach. To "protect" the customers from human bodily goo one would have to wear some sort of NASA suit. I find that after several good ales or vodkas I have completely forgotten about this detail and start to enjoy my meal. Doug, you have hair left on your head? What is that like? Happy weekend. Can't wait for 4:30. Going to the wife's ice hockey tournament. Woohoo! -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phillip Bavaro Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:59 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Clean before cleaning If my memory serves me correctly, the blue nitrile gloves causes too much sweating of the hands, and we chose to supply anti-static PVC clean room gloves instead (ISO Class 3 Compatible, Sealed Bag). In reality, the operators in non-chemical applications typically prefer to wear the cotton gloves with fingercots on top of them for their comfort and dexterity. Fingerprints alone are a valid reason to wear gloves for post cleaned deliverable hardware, but engineering labs typically handle hardware without wearing gloves. For the ultimate in operator comfort, I have always liked the cotton knit stretch gloves with the ESD vinyl coating on the palm of the glove, but never actually implemented it due to the cost (although it has come down quite a bit over the years). "Stadem, Richard" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: I happen to think that the blue nitrile gloves are best for handling pwb's and components. I do not know if they present any outgassing or chlorinating issues. I do know they will not snag on lead protrusions and other hardware, inadvertently causing dropped assemblies. White cotton gloves snag like crazy. However, the blue nitrile gloves cannot be used on boards that are hot. They have no insulative properties. They tend to not absorb fluxes and chemicals, but they do get dirty and need to be thrown and replaced periodically. The blue nitrile gloves protect the operator's hands from chemical exposure. White cotton gloves retain chemicals and prevent evaporation from the operator's skin. The blue nitrile gloves are available in ESD-safe type. I don't think the white gloves are. For these reasons I prefer the blue nitrile gloves. But the operators prefer the white cotton gloves, as they are more comfortable than the blue nitrile, especially if you have hairy hands like mine. Too bad more of it does not grow on the top of my head. But then maybe thats why I don't come up with all of those hair-brained ideas like others I work with! -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tempea, Ioan Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:38 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Clean before cleaning Technos, the question is whether to wear or not to wear gloves on assemblies that will be washed. I am fully aware of the solderability problems that can occur without gloves, so let's stick strictly to the post-wash contamination. And in the same key, Doug was talking about not using white gloves that have chlorines due to bleaching. Which are the gloves to wear? 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