Has anyone ever put together any numbers on this type of problem, it would interesting to see as someone considering getting into doing some side work. I know we had a thread not too long ago on best practices for protecting yourself from liabilities from other companies holding you responsible for defects they don't catch in your work as well as other reasons. Bob Harter, Jr. PCB Designer Paratek Microwave, Inc. 6925 L Oakland Mills Rd. Columbia, MD 21045 PH# (443)259-0140 x178 CP# (443)739-8407 WWW.PARATEK.COM -----Original Message----- From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Roger Stoops Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 14:53 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [DC] Designer beware Must be something in the air; I've been waiting to be paid over 8 months on one design. Roger -----Original Message----- From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jack C. Olson Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 1:54 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [DC] Designer beware Thanks for the warning. In my opinion, one of the advantages to belonging to this forum is that we can look out for each other, (so don't worry if you get flamed because at least one person appreciates the info). I did five designs for a company that I believed in... never got a cent best wishes and hope you get paid, Jack Mario Irigoyen <[log in to unmask]> Sent by: DesignerCouncil <[log in to unmask]> 09/14/2005 12:44 PM Please respond to [log in to unmask] To To [log in to unmask] cc Subject [DC] Designer beware Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 10/14/2005 Retention Category: G90 - General Matters/Administration Hello everyone, I really hate using this forum for this purpose but I just don't want to see any other designer getting screwed the way I did. I provided PCB design services for a company in Jan 2003. They did not pay me for the work then and have still not paid me, with interest accruing monthly. I've heard promise after promise but still no money. Now they need some revisions to the board and have asked me to provide additional services for a "promise to pay" some time in the near future. I have taken the stand "pay me for what I've already done and I'll do the new work with a promise to pay". I believe they are now shopping for someone else to do the work. I have the original database (and won't give it up) so the job will need to be recreated from scratch. Here is the information I can provide: The company is/was Products Research, Inc. formerly based in Addison, IL but was forced out of their office due to lack of finances. The board is a 6-layer (4 sig, 2 plane) mixed tech (SMT&TH) with SM on both sides, called the Advantage 2. Contacts: Jack Paul and/or Dick Kaman If any of you have been contacted for this job BEWARE. 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