I noticed at the IPC Works convention that folks who were participating in the spec development meetings were paying money to attend the meetings...fairly substantially if I remember correctly. Bill Brooks - KG6VVP PCB Design Engineer, C.I.D.+, C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 _______________________________________ Member of the San Diego Chapter of the IPC Designers Council Communications Officer, Web Manager http://dcchapters.ipc.org/SanDiego/ http://pcbwizards.com -----Original Message----- From: George Patrick [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:48 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [DC] Propaganda Rant Another thought... Has anyone on the forum ever worked with a standards committee? Has anyone here been asked to? I am a little curious about the process used to select the standards committees, how they are formed, and how they are operated. It might be that if the process of writing a standard and the procedures used to select and solicit membership in a standards committee were better understood by the designers community, there might be less suspicion about how these decisions are made and implemented. I have been an active (ahem) participant on this forum for a couple of years, as well as a long-time lurker on TechNet. I can't recall having ever seen a request for standards committee membership on either of them (please correct me if I am wrong.) I have also never seen a request for people to help with software development in support of standards until the recent effort by us 'ol hippies. It seems that if the IPC needs help from volunteers, ASKING would be a good first step. Their communications skills are inadequate in an age of electronic media such this forum. My personal opinion is that the IPC doesn't understand the dynamics of an individual membership organization such as the Designers Council. They still think that the only support they can use are those provided by member companies, and they tend to ignore individuals. And since the Board of Directors are all corporate members, I don't see it changing any time soon. Any other ideas are welcome <;^) -- George Patrick Tektronix, Inc. Central Engineering, PCB Design Group P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587 http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com It's my opinion, not Tektronix' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL) Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL) Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------