Ramon, The typical gold plating thickness we see on RF power transistors is 0.000125 inches (i.e., 125u" or 3.175 microns). We haven't see any plating as thick as Ingemar indicated which I believe was 0.001000 inches (i.e., 1000u" or 25.4 microns). However we have seen some devices with 0.000500 inches (i.e., 500u" or 12.7 microns). Regards, George George M. Wenger Reliability / FMA Engineer Base Station and Subsystems Group Andrew Corporation, 40 Technology Drive, Warren, NJ 07059 (908) 546-4531 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Dehoyos, Ramon Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:51 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Tinning of Bipolar Transistor Hi Ingemar: What do you mean with a mil? One thousand of an inch or a millionth of an inch? My understanding has been the first one, which is what I think you mean. Some books abbreviate millionth of an inch as mil. Regards, Ramon -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ingemar Hernefjord (KC/EMW) Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:35 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Tinning of Bipolar Transistor Steve, warning: first of all, crossection one pc and have a look at the gold thickness. We have a problem with degolding on a batch just now: the ordinary dip-dip has to be prolonged because of too much gold. We measured up to 1 mil of gold on some legs! And only a fraction of that on another leg. Ideal is just a flash, if the nickel is good. It's sometimes a problem to give correct plating to these tiny things. In Chin...oops.. Ingemar Hernefjord Ericsson Microwave Systems Hi All! We've got this Bipolar Microwave Transistor that I've just seen for the first time, and I was asked if this part needs tinning because of the gold plating. 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