Cell phones? Grandma's recipie? Certainly sounds good to me! Not to say that cell phones are prone to failure, but if they do, who the **** cares? Now there are those that disagree with me,cell-phone communication is vital. But the fact of the matter is, that cell phones are throw-away electronics...pure and simple. If they don't work, you throw it away and get a new one. To try and devise a process other than what it is, for cell phones (throw away electronics), to me, is putting too many resources into something that won't have a great return. You can only compete in this business if your labor is under $1.00 an hour...probably more like .$.25 an hour. Kind regards, -Steve Gregory- Senior Process Engineer LaBarge Incorporated Tulsa, Oklahoma (918) 459-2285 (918) 459-2350 FAX Glynn Shaw <gshaw@PROTOENGIN To: [log in to unmask] EERING.COM> cc: Sent by: TechNet Subject: [TN] Recipe for Circuit Board Soup <[log in to unmask]> 03/02/2005 06:37 PM Please respond to TechNet E-Mail Forum; Please respond to Glynn Shaw Customer is taking fully loaded, tested assemblies and cooking them: 2 atmospheres, absolute 121 deg C 100% humidity 72 hours Pass-fail criteria: boards must appear cosmetically identical, before and after cooking. They don't... but the circuits aren't falling off the bones and the boards still function electrically after drying :-) Question: is this a valid/known Jedec, IPC, or Telecom test or is customer using grandma's recipe? End use is cell phones. --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ This message may contain information that is privileged and confidential to LaBarge, Inc. It is for use only by the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not copy, use or deliver this message to anyone. In such event, you should destroy the message and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------