And don't forget, that even though its printing ability has been removed, this is only a security feature of the PDF format & there are plenty of programs out there that can re-add printing should you need it. But the IPC may not be too happy. It would allow you to print off sections though, rather than give a whole book to someone on the shop floor. -----Original Message----- From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Brooks,Bill Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:02 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [DC] IPC Design Specifications Good points Jack... However, almost every time I have had to look something up, I have been somewhere away from the computer... Books do not require batteries or an electrical outlet to read them... and I can Xerox a page if need be... I wanted to be able to do both, and if the print function was setup to let you print the book so you could end up with both it might be worth buying the CD... but as it was, I was much happier with the paper version for my needs. At least I can carry it with me to the local restaurant and read while I eat lunch if I need to. :) CD's are much cheaper to reproduce than paper books and should be cheaper to buy if you ask me... but it's hard to fight city hall... something special about it being electronic makes it cost more... go figure. Best regards, Bill Brooks - KG6VVP PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.+, C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 e-mail:[log in to unmask] http://www.dtwc.com http://pcbwizards.com -----Original Message----- From: Jack C. Olson [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:19 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [DC] IPC Design Specifications on the other side of the coin.... I love having computer versions. paper sucks. I can make a bazillion copies, and why do I need to print them anyway? I just need the data when I need it. As a matter of fact, they include a utility to print a single page at a time if you really need to show a print to someone. I never used it, because if I ever need to show anything I just use snagit (or any other decent screen capture utility) to print it. paper is temporary, data is forever. just another opinion... Jack p.s. I would recommend IPC-2221, 2222 and the land pattern standard. That will keep you busy enough for awhile. Here's a free copy of the next 2221, go here and click the "drafts" link: http://www.ipc.org/committeedetail.asp?Committee=D-31b Get it quick, they don't stay there forever... Bryan Randall <accutrace@VERIZO N.NET> Sent by: To DesignerCouncil To <DesignerCouncil@ [log in to unmask] ipc.org> cc 03/17/2005 01:45 PM Subject Please respond to Re: [DC] IPC Design Specifications accutrace@verizon .net Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 04/16/2005 Retention Category: G90 - General Matters/Administration Bill, Thanks for your help! I will proceed with paper copies as you recommended. Bryan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. 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