Yes, we need more info. I agree with Roger, just provide a link to a web address/page, where more active content could be placed or linked. Ray Johnston Lead CAD Designer Rane Corporation 425-355-6000 rayj@rane,com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Kowalewski" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [DC] IPC Design Specifications (or new subject maybe) > Mike makes a great point here. Thanks for taking the time to write, Mike. > > So let me do a straw poll: > > How many of the subscribers to this Forum would like to see more detail > about Designers Council affairs, progress and thinking? > > How many would like to see Chapter reports circulated on this Forum? > > Include your own opinions if you would like to add to this discussion. > > If there's enough groundswell, I'll talk to the Exec and see how we can > implement it, then make a recommendation to Jean Hebeisen and Christ > Poulsen. > > Andy Kowalewski > Chairman > IPC Designers Council Executive Board > > Phone +61 2 9456 7984 > [log in to unmask] > > -----Original Message----- > From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike > Buetow > Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2005 03:07 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [DC] IPC Design Specifications (or new subject maybe) > > Barbara is right on: One of the things that I've always felt distinguishes > designers is that they've never let hurdles like no company money or a > lack > of respect get in the way. They are tenacious, capital T, and god bless > them > for it. > > Dieter and I used to come back from the design shows shaking our heads in > admiration at how starved the designers were for information -- often from > within their own companies -- and how grateful they were to get it. > > I think what we're hearing is that designers want more information, not > less. Yes, occasionally all heck will break loose as people read and > respond > to what the EB is doing. But that's how you encourage involvement. Cutting > people off (which I know is not what Andy or the EB has in mind, by the > way, > so save your hate mail :-)) from the info flow only serves to disengage > them > from the process, and ultimately they will usually give up. > > As a start, might I suggest posting the minutes of the Designers Council > executive board meeting and like meetings to this listserv. > > Also, since publication of the Route seems to be, well, erratic, I would > suggest pre-empting that and posting chapter reports direct to this > listserv. > > All DC members should subscribe to this listserv, and would have a good > reason to, assuming some of this info is regularly circulated here. > > Mike > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV > 1.8d > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. > To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET > DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL) > Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > > E-mail Archives > Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 > for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or > 847-615-7100 ext.2815 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV > 1.8d > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. > To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET > DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL) > Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > > E-mail Archives > Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 > for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or > 847-615-7100 ext.2815 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. 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