I read some criticism of the IPC on-line training and web based seminars on Technet recently... A valid complaint that the format was less than simple for the attendees, and very low tech... here's a quote from the message.... "You have to download the slides ahead of time and flip them yourself during the presentation, AND you have to call in separately from the web link to hear the audio. You don't even need to be logged into the site during the cast." "Why can't they set it up to provide the audio on the website and automatically advance the slides? I've sat thru many webcasts that do this. And almost all of those were free, to boot. Instead, you have to pay for an hour-long long distance call (if you aren't in the US and have access to the toll-free number), on top of the seminar fee." I went looking for some 'webinar' hosting services and ran across what UP Media is doing in a joint venture with PCB007... http://www.pbrseminars.com Now if they can do it, we should be able to do it too, don't you think? I plan to bring this up at the next Executive committee meeting. Best regards, Bill Brooks - KG6VVP PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.+, C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 e-mail:[log in to unmask] http://www.dtwc.com http://pcbwizards.com -----Original Message----- From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:53 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [DC] CID Certification Workshops - Orange County, CA - April 4-6, 2005 I'm sorry to hear you're not back to work yet Mitch... I hope something breaks loose soon for you. Call Dave Catanzaro over at Employment Strategies (858) 278-9225, I think they were looking for a Cadence guy in the last few weeks. I'm not aware of the IPC offering a deeper discount to unemployed designers than the current one available to all member designers for $595.00 instead of $795.00 for non-members. I am however interested in seeing some sort of on-line training courses developed that would allow designers the chance to attend classes they otherwise would not be able to because of travel issues. I was reading on-line about internet classes that are available from the ARRL for Ham operators that want to further their education and I want to ask if our PCB design curriculums could be administrated in such a fashion... Here's a link to the ARRL site... check it out and see if something like that could not be used by the DC as a way to get more educational content out to the designers. http://www.arrl.org/cce/courses.html I wish we could have a program for unemployed designers... I don't thing the IPC has the money to fund it based upon what I have heard at the meetings. I think if that's a program we want to have them fund, we should make our voices heard ringing in the halls of IPC management so they know our desire to help our fellow members get back to work. They are a non-profit corporation and get grants from the government to fund PCB related development and the like... I think they have the means to get funding from the government to help designers get education to get back to work too... The State of California does fund some of that sort of thing... In fact, I think Mary Suggden may know where to get more info on that sort of funding... Best of luck in your endeavors, Bill Brooks - KG6VVP PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.+, C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 e-mail:[log in to unmask] http://www.dtwc.com http://pcbwizards.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL) Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------