Well, since my money is being used to support these warmongers, maybe I should withdraw it. I sure don't want to be accused of supporting this terrorism, ya know... I see no reason that anyone needs to "win" this "war", (other than greed). All I know is that I'm one of the civilians caught in the crossfire. I remember when IPC-D-275 wasn't even copy- righted, and Gary Ferrari and Deiter Bergman gave me permission to make free copies for my PCAD user group. Do you think I would get that permission now? HA! Boy, things sure change... How did the IPC go from being a friendly group that was trying to spread the gospel of learning together and sharing our experience, to some kind of "business-is-business" money machine? I'll stop by the IPC booth next week at the PCB Design Conference and have a chat. Blessed are the Peacemakers. Jack (the "can't we all get along?" kinda guy) Andy Kowalewski <andyk_01@INTERNO DE.ON.NET> Sent by: To DesignerCouncil To <DesignerCouncil@ [log in to unmask] ipc.org> cc 02/28/2005 11:21 PM Subject Please respond to Re: [DC] Is there anybody out "(Designers there? Council Forum)" <DesignerCouncil@ IPC.ORG>; Please respond to Andy Kowalewski <andyk_01@INTERNO DE.ON.NET> Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 03/30/2005 Retention Category: G90 - General Matters/Administration Jack, and Andy and anyone else that is interested: The Designers Council Executive Board is hard at work trying to find a formula that addresses two really big issues: 1) The IPC sees UP media and its shows as arch competitiors, and proceeds on trying really hard to "win" the competitive war. There's justification for that attitude - business is business. (snip) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL) Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------