Wait those holes are 'round'... that is an infringement on my 'wheel' patent... Next I shall patent all the geometric shapes..., the triangle, the square... let's see, polygons, hexagons,... yes, yes... TRACES!!! That's it! (...runs down the hall madly with a trail of papers flying and floating to the floor while he races to get to the patent lawyer's phone number... ) muuuuhaaaahaaahaaaa!!!! Bill Brooks - KG6VVP PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.+, C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 e-mail:[log in to unmask] http://www.dtwc.com http://pcbwizards.com -----Original Message----- From: Kevin L. Seaman [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:27 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [DC] Patent No.: US6,617,529 B2 DC members, I'll patent the holes created by the drills... Thank you, Kevin L. Seaman OrCAD CIS Librarian Allegro PCB Librarian Sr. Staff PCB Layout Engineer Broadcom Corp. Irvine, CA (949)926-5656 (ext. 65656) -----Original Message----- From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Scott Nimon Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:09 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [DC] Patent No.: US6,617,529 B2 DC members, I have encountered a patent which any through-hole land patterns with an annular ring of >0.4mm and used for lead-free soldering is in violation of. We have used 0.4mm as our standard annular ring for all through-hole devices with hole sizes greater than 1.6mm for years. A link to the patent is provided below. Are there any IPC documents I can use to invalidate this patent? Any suggestions or comments will be welcomed. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL &p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,617,529.WKU.&OS=PN/6,617, 529&RS=PN/6,617,529 Scott Nimon Yazaki North America 6801 Haggerty Road Mail Stop: 2229E Canton, MI 48187 Phone: 734-983-2630 Fax: 734-983-2631 [log in to unmask] Yazaki North America, Inc. - Confidentiality Notice This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary and/or privileged material. Any review, distribution, reliance on, or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete it and all copies of it from your system. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL) Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL) Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL) Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------