Allegro has it... -- George Patrick Tektronix, Inc. Central Engineering, PCB Design Group P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587 http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com It's my opinion, not Tektronix' -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Roger Stoops Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 08:39 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] OT: ODB++ files Sue, Query: Which CAD vendors are you aware of that have ODB++ output at no cost? Roger -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Sue Macaluso Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:04 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] OT: ODB++ files There is a definite advantage to using ODB++ output files instead of gerber. ODB++ has not only shapes identified in the artwork (like gerber), but also the type of feature it is (SMT pad, etc.). Gerber output files do not have this type of intelligence to them -- they simply contain a list of apertures/shapes with their specified locations. The other advantage to ODB++ is that you remove the "translation" portion of the pre-engineering work at the circuit board manufacturer. The same ODB++ files that are output by the customer are read directly into Genesis at the board manufacturer without any need for data translation. This removes the possibility of error during the translation process. As far as disadvantages, I can't think of any. Most CAD softwares have free downloads for outputting these types of files. This makes it compatible with most design packages out there. Regards, Sue Macaluso Photocircuits Corporation 31 Sea Cliff Avenue Glen Cove, New York 11542 Phone: (516) 609-1231 Fax: (516) 609-1713 Pager: (516) 657-7595 e-mail: [log in to unmask] web: www.photocircuits.com IP: 10.1.1.178 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Steadman [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:28 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [TN] OT: ODB++ files > > Hi all, > Our board house can use ODB++ files. Is there an advantage or > disadvantage > to using these instead of gerbers? > TIA > Jim > > --------------------------------------------------- > Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) > To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest > Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives > Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 > for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or > 847-615-7100 ext.2815 > ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------