That logic is all wet behind the ears( tabs, pads, castellations etc. ). I treat those as guidelines and require the ECM ( Electronic Contract Manufacturer ), who knows the environmental conditions of the factory floor and storage area, to be responsible for the acceptability of the device prior to processing. If the device has exceeded the acceptable moisture level, then he must demonstrate he has brought it back to an acceptable level, prior to processing, by any process that meets the requirements without being detrimental to all the other acceptance criteria. Dewey -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ryan Grant Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 9:23 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] J-STD-033A interpretation Hi Technetters, I'd like to solicit interpretations of J-STD-033A Handling, Packing, Shipping and Use of Moisture Sensitive Devices. In particular, I mentioned to colleagues that simply resealing a moisture sensitive device in its moisture barrier bag does not stop the clock for that device. They set me back in my place by pointing out that both sections 4.1.2.1 and 4.1.2.2 state the floor life can not only be stopped, but also reset by "dry pack according to 3.3" and leaving the parts in inventory for a sufficient length of time. When I reference section 3.3, it covers sealing the parts in a Moisture Barrier Bag with desiccant, but no reference to "drying". Drying is covered in section 3.2! How can I argue with that?! In other words, if a level 5a part is left in the open for 8 hours before resealing, after 3 1/2 days (10X the exposure time) of sitting bagged in a warehouse, the part would be "dry" and the clock reset! What a BONUS! Otherwise, tape and reel parts might require up to 67 days of bake. Although I can follow the lawyer speak, I don't see the logic. Can anyone straighten me out? Thanks, Ryan Grant --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -----------------------------------------------------