Darn... My teenager's shoes were 80 dollars... at the local skateboard shop. I frequent Payless for myself though... I hate to pay more than 20 dollars for a pair of shoes and I want them to last for at least a year... So where is the great savings? My kid's shoes last 3 months... I bet the shoes I paid 80 for were made in China for less than 5 bucks a pair. Someone is getting all the profits in there somewhere... My wife has about 15 pairs of shoes, she spends more of our money on gardening, her passion. Lou, your wife sounds like Amealda Marcos from the Philippines. You girly man.... :) Women do love shoes, I feel your pain. <Arnold cracks me up...> So I would bet that most of us drive cars that are made in foreign countries, eat food that is grown in foreign countries, watch TV on a set made in a foreign country, talk on a cell phone made in a foreign country... etc... My wife believes as you do Lou, that we all should do with less, so that there is a world for the grandkids to inherit. That is until we run out of something she wants. I still remember the shortages we had when Jimmy Carter was President, toilet paper was in short supply, and gasoline too. People get very upset when they can't get the necessities of life, food, clothing, shelter, fuel for the car and BBQ and beer for the weekends. :) Best regards, Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 http://pcbwizards.com -----Original Message----- From: Louis Dallara [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:49 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [DC] [NTC] Education...a little off topic but valid.. > Hence we have shoes, sneakers, clothing etc etc etc sold in America for considerably >less than they can be manufactured here. Yes; and my poor wife would have to suffer with only 5 pair of shoes instead of 85 pairs that she has now and says she needs a new pair.. And "Payless Shoes" would go out of business... What's up with women and shoes, I don't understand.. U can only wear one pair... lol IMHO The answer is we can do with a lot less of everything so that further generations can have a pair of shoes... I'm I being un-American???... Maybe a girly guy lol Lou out ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL) Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. To temporarily stop/(restart) delivery of DesignerCouncil send: SET DesignerCouncil NOMAIL/(MAIL) Search previous postings at: www.ipc.org > On-Line Resources & Databases > E-mail Archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------