Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from ws1.uml.edu ([129.63.1.201]) by postoffice.uml.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id HXEYBJ00.655 for <[log in to unmask]>; Sat, 8 May 2004 16:59:43 -0400 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com(194.25.134.20) by ws1.uml.edu via csmap id cedc96ba_a132_11d8_9f66_003048232a76_18126; Sat, 08 May 2004 17:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fwd07.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BMYv6-0002r9-00; Sat, 08 May 2004 22:59:40 +0200 Received: from thomidesk (VgiyqYZU8eeElTJ6jPXwjdaUSIpnifWYip6JxK3Zxd0gLiEvJpzLZe@[217.88.204.98]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BMYut-0cyXnU0; Sat, 8 May 2004 22:59:27 +0200 Message-ID: <011301c4353f$83aef6b0$647c6099@thomidesk> From: [log in to unmask] (Thomi) To: "Todd MacFadden" <[log in to unmask]> References: <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [LF] reliability study on SAC with various PCB and component finish combinations Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 23:00:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Seen: false X-ID: VgiyqYZU8eeElTJ6jPXwjdaUSIpnifWYip6JxK3Zxd0gLiEvJpzLZe X-NAI-Spam-Score: -0.8 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered BAYES_00=-4.9, SUBJ_HAS_SPACES=4.1 X-NAIMIME-Disclaimer: 1 X-NAIMIME-Modified: 1 Hi Todd, as we are working on a similar issue, with regard to voiding in lead free BGA solder balls, may I ask you to send me a copy of your latest paper as well? Thank you very much! Regards, Thomas Ahrens, Boostedt e-mail [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd MacFadden" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [LF] reliability study on SAC with various PCB and component finish combinations > Hi Santhakumar, > > The Massachusetts Lead Free Consortium has conducted two phases of LF > reliability testing with some of the parameters you mention. We > utilized five lead-free board finishes (HASL, matte Sn, OSP, immersion > Ag, and ENIG), two atmospheres (air and N2), and three flux > formulations of NEMI SAC solder paste, using component leads finished > with matte tin, NiPdAu, NiAu and SnAgCu. > > I just tried unsuccessfully to attach our most recent paper. (I can > send it to you directly if wish - respond to me off-line), Meanwhile, > you can find older papers summarizing our work on our webpage (plus a > lot of other great LF presentations) at: > > http://www.turi.org/messages/lead_free_electronics.htm > > The good news that we found is that reliable lead free assembly is > possible - if you do your homework. > > Good luck!! > > Todd MacFadden > Project Manager of Research and Training > Toxics Use Reduction Institute > University of Massachusetts Lowell > 978.934.3391 > [log in to unmask] > www.turi.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: santhakumar rajesnayagham <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Thursday, May 6, 2004 11:48 am > Subject: [LF] reliability study on SAC with various PCB and component > finish combinations > > > Hi All, > > Has anybody performed reliability studies on the following > > combination?Solder paste: SAC (any combination) > > PCB finish: Immersion Silver or Immersion Tin > > Component finish: any lead-free finish is ok > > for a variety of components? > > Thank you, > > Sincerely, > > Santhakumar > > > > > > > > Fern Abrams <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Just to clarify, IPC filed > > comments with the EU Technical Adaption > > Committee regarding the need for clarification proposed definition of > > LF: > > > > "A maximum concentration value of 0.1% by weight in homogeneous > > materials > > for lead, mercury, hexavalent chromium, polybrominated biphenyls (PBB) > > and > > polybrominated diphenyl ethers (PBDE) and of 0.01% weight in > > homogeneousmaterials for cadmium shall be tolerated. Homogeneous > > material means a > > unit > > that can not be mechanically disjointed in single materials". > > > > While I have had no formal response, we have heard informally that > > thisis unlikely to be further clarified and may end up being > > settled in > > court. > > > > Fern Abrams > > Director of Environmental Policy > > IPC - The Association Connecting Electronics Industries > > 1333 H Street, NW, 11th Floor West > > Washington, DC 20005 > > (202) 962-0460 > > fax (202) 962-0464 > > www.ipc.org > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bev Christian [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 4:49 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [LF] Lead in resistors > > > > Gordon, > > No, not very comforting. > > > > The IPC Materials Declaration Team has sent a letter to the > > appropriateEU personnel asking for clarification of some of these > > issues, but to > > the best of my knowledge Fern has still not received an answer. > > This is > > probably because they (EU) had not thought that far ahead when they > > drafted the dreadful thing in the first place. As more than one > > wag has > > stated, we will probably have to wait for clarification when that > > firstunfortunate company is dragged into court. Then we MIGHT get > > definitiveanswers. > > regards, > > Bev Christian > > Research in Motion > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Davy, Gordon [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > > Sent: May 5, 2004 4:26 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [LF] Lead in resistors > > > > > > Bill Haas has noted that 0402 surface-mount "lead-free" resistors were > > found to contain more than 1000 ppm Pb, and that the suppliers assured > > him that this is OK per the RoHS legislation. Bill wanted to know > > whereit says in the directive that what the resistor manufacturers > > told him > > is so. Annex item 7 exempts Pb in "electronic ceramic parts (e.g. > > piezoelectronic devices)", so it looks as if this is what they are > > referring to. > > > > What the Directive doesn't say anywhere, of course, is that for > > components not exempted by the Annex the maximum allowable level > > is 1000 > > ppm, or how the limit (whatever it turns out to be) is to be > > calculated- i.e., what is to be used as the fraction denominator: > > terminationfinish, component as a whole, assembly as a whole, > > equipment as a whole. > > Article 4 paragraphs 1 and 2 say that there can't be any Pb at all > > except per the Annex, and paragraph 3 puts manufacturers on notice > > thatthey may have to eliminate other stuff later. > > > > Also not spelled out is how users of components - such as Bill - are > > expected to document that the equipment items that they are > > selling are > > Pb-free: will the envirocops be satisfied if the equipment > > manufacturercan produce upon demand a certificate of compliance > > from the > > manufacturers of each component? If not, how diligent does the > > originalequipment manufacturer have to be to ensure that no Pb > > above the > > to-be-determined limit (except as permitted by the Annex) has > > crept into > > his product? > > > > As an analogy, hardware destined for space has long had a prohibition > > against pure tin plating. Yet every time a satellite has been audited, > > cases of pure tin plating have been found, due simply to human error. > > Can you imagine the jeopardy of the manufacturer of an electronic > > system, wondering if a particular item will be randomly selected > > to find > > out if it contains Pb? (X-ray fluorescence will be useless for > > levels of > > 1000 ppm, so if that's the level that is finally chosen, we're talking > > serious chemical analysis.) > > > > Article 8 specifies that the penalties are to be "effective, > > proportionate, and dissuasive." I don't see any language > > describing how > > disagreements are to be resolved, or what happens to the equipment > > whilethe matter is being settled. Not very comforting. > > > > Gordon Davy > > Baltimore, MD > > [log in to unmask] > > 410-993-7399 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- > > -------Leadfee Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV > > 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following > > text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Leadfree To > > temporarily stop delivery of Leadree for vacation breaks send: SET > > Leadfree NOMAIL Search previous postings at: > > http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site > > http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional > > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847- > > 509-9700 > > ext.5315 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- > > ------- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- > > -------Leadfee Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV > > 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following > > text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Leadfree To > > temporarily stop delivery of Leadree for vacation breaks send: SET > > Leadfree NOMAIL Search previous postings at: > > http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site > > http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional > > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847- > > 509-9700 > > ext.5315 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- > > ------- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------Leadfee Mail List provided as a service by IPC using > > LISTSERV 1.8d > > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following > > text in > > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Leadfree > > To temporarily stop delivery of Leadree for vacation breaks send: > > SET Leadfree NOMAIL > > Search previous postings at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives > > Please visit IPC web site > > http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional > > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847- > > 509-9700 ext.5315 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------ > > > > > > Santhakumar Rajesnayagham > > Graduate Student & Research Assistant > > Center for Electronics Manufacturing and Assembly (CEMA) > > Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, New York > > Phone : (CEMA Lab) 585-475-7293 > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------Leadfee Mail List provided as a service by IPC using > > LISTSERV 1.8d > > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following > > text in > > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Leadfree > > To temporarily stop delivery of Leadree for vacation breaks send: > > SET Leadfree NOMAIL > > Search previous postings at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives > > Please visit IPC web site > > http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional > > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847- > > 509-9700 ext.5315 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------ > > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! 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