Hmmmm the USA converting to metric .. are you kidding ??? THAT WOULD BE UN- PATRIOTIC. Adopt a system from old Europe, no !@#$% way ! We know how to measure stuff... thanks, dont need your help. right, now I will be banned from this forum, bye anyway. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack C. Olson" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:04 AM Subject: [TN] Joe's Metric Challenge > I am in technet "digest mode", so I won't know if you > got any response to your challenge until tomorrow, but... > > I am one of those circuit board designers > who works for a company > that requires documentation in metric, > but who still does all the design database work in mils. > > I know, I'm pathetic. > partly fear, > partly "I don't know how to switch over" in Mentor > partly lazy, comfortable habit. > > I have very little respect for board designers > who won't change a process or a parameter > even when the facts show that it should be changed. > It doesn't matter "how we've always done it", > I believe in science. > and progress. > And now I realize I AM one of those old farts. > > I've been squirming away from this subject for years. > > Now I'm imagining what people in other countries > think of me when they read my posts. > and I'm a little embarrassed. > The obstinance, or arrogance, > (or whatever you want to call it) > of using an illogical system of measurement > just because we were taught that way as children > never trying to learn the better way, > must cause people to shake their heads and wonder. > > At least I could make an attempt to use a common method > of communication in public, dontcha think? > > So I am accepting your challenge, Joe! > (at least in public <grin> > > In fact, I think we should adopt this in all IPC forums, > so I might just cross-post this in the Designer's Council > Flame me if ya want! > > but > THANKS for the kick in the head! > > Jack (aka "the new guy" with old habits) > > > > > |---------+----------------------------> > | | Automatic digest | > | | processor | > | | <LISTSERV@LISTSER| > | | V.IPC.ORG> | > | | Sent by: TechNet | > | | <[log in to unmask]>| > | | | > | | | > | | 04/27/2004 12:00 | > | | AM | > | | Please respond to| > | | TechNet | > | | | > |---------+----------------------------> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------| > | | > | | > | | > | | > |To: Recipients of TechNet digests <[log in to unmask]> | > |cc: | > | | > | | > | | > | Subject: TechNet Digest - 25 Apr 2004 to 26 Apr 2004 (#2004-114) | > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------| > > > > Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 05/27/2004 > Retention Category: G90 - > General > Matters/Administration > > > > ----- Message from Joe Fjelstad <[log in to unmask]> on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 > 11:07:09 EDT ----- > > Subject: Re: Stack-up for 2 layer, 3oz. copper board - a metric > viewpoint > > > > <snip> > > It's time for a change that is long overdue. > > To that end, maybe everyone in this forum could start by supplying metric > values first in these conversations and for some time to come put the > older, less > logical measurement values in parenthesis following the metric value for > historical reference (or for those who still find comfort in the old ways). > > <snip> > > Kind regards to all, > Joe > > --------------------------------------------------- > Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) > To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest > Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives > Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > ----------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -----------------------------------------------------