What happened to the old .047" thickness?? Bernie Kessler At 07:19 AM 02/13/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Okay... let me rephrase my question. What would be the most common >laminate thicknesses for double-sided FR-4 material, around the .045" range. >I know that I can get .031 and .062 material, is there anything in between >that would be considered "standard" (readily available without added cost)? > >Jim Marsico >Senior Engineer >Production Engineering >EDO Electronics Systems Group >[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >631-595-5879 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott B. Westheimer [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:33 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] FR-4 standard thickness > > Roger, > > "Standard" means different things to different people. IPC does not >specify > standard thickness for double sided or multilayer PCB's, that is >left up to > the product designer to meet their product fit, form and functions >needs. > What is normally considered is material availability as a industry >standard. > Certainly 0.062" thickness, in a lot of cases is used for double >sided and > boards are designed around that thickness. However some designs and >products > can not be that thick and therefore other material needs to be used. > > Scott Westheimer > > Colonial Circuits > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Stoops" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 5:18 PM > Subject: Re: [TN] FR-4 standard thickness > > > Okay, I have a "newbie" type of question: > > What are the "standard" thicknesses for double-sided boards? > > And then the type of questions I ask when it's been a rough week: > > Who determines the standard? Has IPC determined a standard? > > I would like to know so I can tuck it away in my quickly growing >files of > pcb flotsam and jetsam... > > Have a good one! (Time to call it a day) > > Roger M. Stoops, CID+ > Trimble Navigation Ltd., Dayton, OH, USA > Ph: +01 937.245.5288 > Fax: +01 937.233.7511 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Scott B. >Westheimer > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 3:48 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] FR-4 standard thickness > > > James, > > This is not a standard thickness if you are taking about a double >sided PCB. > However if it is a multilayer and depending on how many layers it >has it is > possible to get your required thickness. Most likely if you are >talking > double sided than it will either be specially made by a laminate > manufacturer or the PCB fabricator. If the laminator makes it, it >might be > expensive depending on the quantity needed.. It might be best to >allow the > fabricator to make the material as it should cost less. > > Scott Westheimer > > Colonial Circuits > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marsico, James" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 3:04 PM > Subject: [TN] FR-4 standard thickness > > > > Good day Technet: > > Our designers are designing a PWB using IPC 4101/24 (FR406) >material > that's > > .045" thick. Is this a standard thickness that is readily >available? > > > > Jim Marsico > > Senior Engineer > > Production Engineering > > EDO Electronics Systems Group > > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > 631-595-5879 > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e > > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following >text in > > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > > To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail >to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) > > To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest > > Search the archives of previous posts at: >http://listserv.ipc.org/archives > > Please visit IPC web site >http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 > for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at >[log in to unmask] or > 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > > 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