Here are some thoughts we have implemented in the past that worked well. 1. Look at Out of box audit as a customer validation / verification. What the customer will see. 2. We actually use the c=0 sampling plan by Nicholas Squeglia. The zero acceptance number plans developed provide equal or greater consumer protection with less inspection that the corresponding MIL-STD-105 sampling plan Due to the advantages, and the greater emphasis is being placed on zero defects and product liability the plans have found there way into the commercial industries although developed for military products. 3. OBA is to evaluate what the customer is receiving from your manufacturing site. This information is captured and reported back to the Manufacture for corrective actions, along with rejecting the lot or batch for the manufacture to evaluate/test and resubmit. In addition to actual OBA finding results can be tied into RMAs. If RMAs are being returned as DOA (Dead on arrival) this could be due to not functioning, or accessories are missing that is vital to the operation this information should be captured and verified in OBA. 4. We have it broke down into two different groups, cosmetic and functionality. Each group receives a different AQL for C=0. If you're interested and would like additional information regarding the OBA process that we use please feel free to email me directly. David Harman -----Original Message----- From: Dacia Super [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 12:38 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Out of Box Audits All - My organization is in the process of developing a new step in our standard production flow: the implementation of the Out of Box Audit. Currently, our standard production process includes MANY quality checks and balances: first article, verification (of what almost feels like verification of everything) and a standard final audit process, where product is pulled based off of sampling tables and accept/reject decisions are made. We are looking at implementing an OBA process in an attempt to catch any "large scale" mistakes that can be missed. My questions are as follows: How have other organizations implemented this process? What does the OBA usually entail? What is standard to check for during an OBA? Is each out-going lot checked? How much labor time is usually associated with the OBA process? My familiarity with the process is really quite limited. Background info: Small business Manufacture of memory with lot sizes ranging from 25 pieces to 5,000 Just-in-time philosophy Small crew (but not adverse to making it larger if need be) Any assistance or ideas out there would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Dacia --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -----------------------------------------------------