Hi Eric, We have to "massage" the pins of the formflex before each change-over to assure that the pins come up, which is time-consuming and a frustrating job for the operators. A second problem is that the modules sometimes need to be repaired because of oil leakage. But although the system doesn't work as trouble-free as it's supposed to do, it's still much easier than having to deal with individual support pins, especially for complex double sided boards My opinion is that formflex is far from perfect, but still the best board-support solution you can get for the DEK these days. So far the service of DEK has been quite good, and even some modifications to the system were done on our request. I know that DEK is working very hard to improve formflex. Daan Terstegge Thales Communications Unclassified mail Personal Website: http://www.smtinfo.net >>> [log in to unmask] 10/23/03 10:51am >>> Good Morning Everybody, I was wondering if anybody had any comments to make about the reliability of the Formflex system and the back-up given for this product. I am struggling with ours despite cleaning and much exercising. (Formflex, not me!) The ELA has now been out of action for a week and we have transferred production back to the old SMTech. Replies off line if you feel more comfortable. Regards Eric Dawson --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -----------------------------------------------------