Well you guys are sort of right, we use pam on the rims and wheels to provide a slippery surface so the large cunks of rubber on the track dont stick to the rims and throw the wheel out of balance some times I come in and there is lbs of rubber strings all draped over the suspension, rad and any other part where they can cling. The lack of brake dust is a side advantage, and yes my butt is big enough to have trouble gettin in the window of my car, but I wiggle a lot. robert Tarzwell --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -----------------------------------------------------