Wee Mei This may help in explaining the difference between ESD protective materials. http://www.staticcontrol.com/pdfs/P1%20Choosing%20the%20Right%20Static%20Bag .pdf Dave Fish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lum Wee Mei" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [TN] ESD Pink Bubble Wrap/Bags > Having read some of the replies, I fully understand it is not the colour > that determine the property of the material. What then is the acceptable > property or material used in this bubble wrap/bag made from? This will > allow me to check with our supplier to see whether they give me the > correct specification. This will allow me to recommend precautionary > measures (I really do not want to see staff in the whole lab breaking > into rashes , Hee Hee Hee) ), step up our ESD control or any contingency > plans, etc if I am to continue to use up this roll of bubble wrap. > > Thanks to those who find time to give me your precious feedback. > > Regards, > Wee Mei > > Bev Christian wrote: > > >Thanks, Mel. > >Bev > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mel Parrish [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > >Sent: August 27, 2003 11:06 AM > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: [TN] ESD Pink Bubble Wrap/Bags > > > > > >Perhaps another note is necessary for perspective. > >I had problems in the past where our auditors were rejecting all product > >simply because they were placed in or near any pink colored material without > >regard for the actual material properties or their condition. > >Bev is a good friend and one of the most knowledgeable people in our group > >and this comment was not intended in any way to reflect negatively upon him > >or his input concerning a material allergic reaction. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Mel Parrish > >Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:47 AM > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: [TN] ESD Pink Bubble Wrap/Bags > > > > > >Hi Bev and all, > >I think that we need to be a little cautious concerning grouping of all > >products simply by the color. Historically there was a restriction from the > >use of Pink Poly which was in the classification of Static Dissipative that > >did cause solderability issues due to release of surface treatments to > >materials stored in or near the material. This was well documented at the > >time and other more preferable materials were required such as the nickel > >layered materials that were not prone to this characteristic while adding > >shielding capability. The color is not the issue but the actual properties > >of the material is. Even when there was a serious issue with the pink poly > >material there were other pink materials that were OK to use. > > > >Best regards, > > > >Mel Parrish > >Director, Training Materials and Resources > >Soldering Technology International Inc. > >102 Tribble Drive > >Madison, AL 35758 > >256 705 5530 > >256 461 9566 Fax > >[log in to unmask] > >www.solderingtech.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Bev Christian > >Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:11 AM > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: [TN] ESD Pink Bubble Wrap/Bags > > > > > >Wee Mei, > >We also had a case where a pink poly had an amine in it and one of our > >employees broke out in a horrible rash - to the point where she was taken to > >the hospital. > >regards, > >Bev Christian > >Research in Motion > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Lum Wee Mei [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > >Sent: August 27, 2003 3:47 AM > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: [TN] ESD Pink Bubble Wrap/Bags > > > > > >Hello, > > > >We recently ordered cushioned ESD bags and a big roll of the pink bubble > >wrap. The pink bubble wrap is used to wrap PWBA that are bigger than > >those ESD bags that we ordered. I have heard that pink bubble bags have > >impact on PWBA even though they are ESD. However, my supplier ensure > >that there is no problem or impacts at all as long as they are ESD coated. > > > >I just came back from the IPC-A-600 Inspector course and was told by my > >instructor that pink bubble bags absorb moisture readily and will age > >the PWBA ESD coated or not as it produce dioxin. This will cause the > >PWBs difficulty in wetting. > > > >I just searched the TechnNet archieves but I am lost in those messages. > >Can someone be kind enough to give me some good reference or advice what > >am I going to do with that big roll of pink bubble wrap? > > > >Thanks and regards, > >Wee Mei > > > >--------------------------------------------------- > >Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e > >To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > >the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > >To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to > >[log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) > >To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to > >[log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest > >Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives > >Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 > >for additional information, or contact 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