Dave, Resending, as I originally sent it from home via Blackberry and I have it set to screen out TechNet. We are trying to get answers to your questions. If this stands as is, I will be willing to give a report in Minneapolis. I will of course leave out the name of the actual supplier, as per IPC rules. Bev -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: July 24, 2003 7:20 AM To: [log in to unmask]; Bev Christian Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Short Solderability Time Limits Hi Bev! I haven't seen or heard of such a development but we should pose your question to the IPC/EIA/JEDEC solderability committee to see what type of response we get back, It seems pretty apparent that the component fabricator; a) hasn't a clue about what solderability is; 2) or understands completely what solderability is but has elected to not use a solderable finish. Either way, can you find an alternative component? Has the component fabricator confused solderability with moisture sensitivity requirements? Dave Bev Christian <[log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] ET> cc: Sent by: TechNet Subject: [TN] Short Solderability Time Limits <TechNet@listserv .ipc.org> 07/22/2003 04:43 PM Please respond to "TechNet E-Mail Forum."; Please respond to Bev Christian Technetters, As if we didn't have enough problems with really, really old parts; part numbers; moisture sensitivity; a few instances of stupid finishes as suppliers go lead free; but now I have a new one - for me anyways. We have received virgin parts where the label on the bag says they only have a SOLDERABILITY LIFETIME of 168 hours after they are taken out of the bag! This is not a case where one can recover them by putting them in an oven afterwards! Anyone else seeing this new pain-in-the-neck development? regards, Bev Christian Research in Motion --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -----------------------------------------------------