I don't see any real signifiant changes until the market and industry turn again... Right now these equipment manufacturers and software suppliers hold the cards...they know we have the equipment and are not in any position to move other equipment in...so we're pretty much set with them...not they also have suffered in this downward economy and need to compensate...so they adjust contracts...tack on a added fee here, and additional cost there...I believe they do this because they know we cannot afford to go elsewhere...at least not at the moment...I repeat...at least not at them moment...but I see things changing...and that moment will indeed arrive... --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -----------------------------------------------------