Hi Steve, My approach would be to inform the customer that there will be glue on these places, that I'm sure it is technically OK (explain why), but that I agreed with QA to inform them about it. Then I would ask them to react within 24 hours in case they see a problem with it. Daan Terstegge http://www.smtinfo.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Gregory" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: [TN] Adhesive where no component is loaded... > Hi All! > > The fun never ends... > > I've been involved in a rather heated (albeit silly, I think...) debate with > an inspector here, about adhesive being deposited where there is no component > loaded. > > As you may surmise from my posts over the past few days, I stencil epoxy, not > dispense. For some reason, the issue has come up with one of my inspectors > here, requesting that I get something in writing from our customer saying > that it's okay to have epoxy deposits at locations where there is no > component loaded. I told her that I wasn't going to do it because I didn't > want to look silly asking our customer if it was okay to have a glue dot at a > location that's not loaded. > > Her reasoning is that we're putting something on the board that's not being > called out on the bill of material. My response is that the epoxy isn't > called out anyway, but we have to use it to be able to process this board > that has PTH and SMT on the bottom. "But there's no component there, so there > shouldn't be any glue there." was her response. "But it doesn't make any > difference, it's a non-issue" I calmly replied. > > We've been debating this for 2-days now, and I'm about at my wits end. > There's nothing in the -610 or the J-STD-001 that says it's defect, or that > it's forbidden to deposit epoxy where a component isn't loaded, and there's > nothing in the documentation from our customer to keep the unused areas free > from epoxy. I've already spent much more time on this issue than I ever > thought I would. Why this issue has popped-up now, I don't have a clue. Me > thinks it's much ado about nothing. > > What is your take on this issue? > > -Steve Gregory- > > --------------------------------------------------- > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) > To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest > Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives > Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > ----------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -----------------------------------------------------