Brian, Back when I worked for a firm with some clout, this service was automatic. As long as I placed orders they shipped the product to maintain the revenue stream, no matter how many replacement products they had introduced. Of course we did buy direct and did not expect a stocking distributor to hold obsolete product in inventory and patiently wait for an order. Cheers, Brad Vanderhoof AITI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Ellis" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 3:56 AM Subject: Re: [TN] Solder paste, why the secrecy? > Steve > > One point I would consider when qualifying a product: a written > guarantee by the vendor that the product will be on the market for a > minimum of 5 years, preferably 10, without modification, so that you > don't have to go to the expense of frequent requalification. In the > event of a product being withdrawn within the period, for whatever > reason, the vendor will support the cost of requalification, even if the > results favour a competitor's product. If everyone insisted on this, > then the manufacturer of the product will think twice about withdrawing > a product during a viable lifetime. The downside, of course, is that, > after 5 years, there may be better products on the market, but so what, > if the one you are using does what you ask of it? > > Which large company with clout will start the ball rolling? > > Brian > > Steve Gregory wrote: > > My latest post about Solder paste, has just raised an issue that I've > > thought about over the years...this may upset some people. > > > > Why do us as users, need to go through all these qualification tests in > > order to select a solder paste? All of us use the paste in the same way, > > no? Aren't the vendors of these products AWARE of the requirements that > > need to be met? Why don't they "tailor" their products to their users? > > Do these vendors understand the expense and time that it takes to do all > > these qualification tests? Why should we even have to do this? Don't > > solder paste vendors understand their market? > > > > Even the IpC has put into place procedures to qualify solder paste. I > > would think, that if I were a solder paste vendor, and to secure > > business, I would make sure, that whatever product I sold, would comply > > to all industry standards, and advertise it as such, and then back it > > up...you would win market share with that simple effort. > > > > But to tell you the truth, I have recieved quite few emails that have > > found that what was claimed, is not the truth...you have only yourself > > to blame for that. So I will go on to do my own tests, and not even > > consider your sales people and their pitches, because they lie to all of > > us, and cannot be trusted...and that's a damn shame... > > > > -Steve Gregory- > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e > > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text > > in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > > To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to > > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) > > To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to > > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest > > Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives > > Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for > > additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or > > 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------- > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) > To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest > Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives > Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > ----------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -----------------------------------------------------