Tin-Nickel alloy plating is a unique metal that is just about uncorrodable. We used it at Hewlett-Packard for about 23 years (1965-1988). First as a final finish (but in those days we had acid fluxes in the wave solder) than as a barrier metal under bright tin and then gold. You can read about it in Coomb's PC Handbook 4th Ed. (pp. 19.42-19.44) or earlier. It is not in the new 5th Ed. I don't know if it is being used anymore in the San Francisco Bay Area like in the earlier days of pcb growth. It is a non-proprietary plating bath that has no organic additives. It can be difficult to control and its plating can be very stressed. But it has a number of unique metallurgical properties--It is non-magnetic--Gold WILL NOT DIFFUSE INTO IT--It will not corrode unless you use concentrated aqua-regia. Stanford Univ once did a project to understand how the alloy worked because the properties were SO MUCH different from either nickel or tin. The report was fascinating, especially for a metallurgist because the alloy was truly unique. Morton Adler of Bell Labs did a lot of research on it because 5 microinches of gold on tin-nickel out performed their 100 microinches of gold on nickel for switch contacts. I think Electrochemicals developed a proprietary tin-nickel that had an organic stress reducer in it and did not require hydrofluoric acid to control the pH. The Metal Finishing Handbook had the bath formulation in it. I know personally that it made a great finish for sail boat parts--never a sign of salt water corrosion in 20 years and we helped some artists in Estes Park, COL plate a bronze statue so it would look good forever. Happy Holden Westwood Associates 375 Morgan Lane, #206 West Haven, CT 06516 "Crepeau, Phil" <[log in to unmask]> Sent by: TechNet <[log in to unmask]> 05/21/2003 05:52 PM Please respond to "TechNet E-Mail Forum."; Please respond to "Crepeau, Phil" To: [log in to unmask] cc: Subject: Re: [TN] PCB plating hi, i think, but am not certain, that i understand your question. first of all, i interpret nickel/tin plating to be 'pure' nickel with 'pure' tin deposited on top of it. if this is the case, you haven't gotten rid of the magnetic nickel. second, nickel-only is not a good finish to solder to to say the least third, specifically, what do you mean by reliability? phil -----Original Message----- From: Stolar, Paul W [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 1:33 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] PCB plating Does anyone have any knowledge about Ni versus Ni/Sn plating as it relates to reliability? We cannot use pure Ni since it is magnetic. Any ideas about how thicker Pd will affect reliability? 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