Hello all, Responses to this query represent the wide variations that accompanies forays into issues that fall in the gray area. The hardest part of any decision such as this is getting consensus amongst all concerned. Consensus has many different levels and I won't describe all of them here. The bottom line is that all of us work for companies where the primary focus is to make money so that we can continue to work. IMO the inspector needs to step back, trust Steve's judgment on this, and allow hardware to be shipped even though he has some problems with it. These kind of blackmail threats, (e.g. I won't accept this until...) needs to be eliminated for a business to be successful. This is why we work hard on consensus building to help us with these kind of issues. I hope this helps. Good luck. Bill Kasprzak Moog Inc, Electronics Process Engineering From: Steve Gregory [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 7:12 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Adhesive where no component is loaded... There's been some interesting responses! But I'd like to ask a question, there's been a lot of "what if's" mentioned about having epoxy in between the pads of the no-pops, has this really ever caused anybody a problem? My case was that the work order had already been kitted, we were setting-up, and then we got an immediate ECO to not populate 20 locations. The stencil was already made, and due to the locations, taping them off on the stencil would've caused defects with the print...so I chose to print everything. Again my question to those who think I should get permission first, would you accept the delay in delivery by me waiting for you to say if it's okay or not? Again, in the fourteen years that I've been doing this, I don't know of any issue that has arisen of having epoxy between the pads at un-used locations. By-the-way, I tried my new polyimide stencil today, still not getting enough height to contact the body of the JANTX diodes with the square endcaps...back to the drawing board. -Steve Gregory- PS Brian, does this email have HTML? I'm not trying to use it...might be my new version of AOL that I just loaded... --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -----------------------------------------------------