I do thin you are right but let me play the other side for a moment. You have a set of pads with epoxy between and no component. ????? Why no component. Maybe for a variation on another assembly??? Maybe for an RF fix for tuning later in the assembly??? Maybe when the customer gets the board they solder a component on for just the heck of it. But if the glue dot is there and it is hard they have to chip it off and if it is in a couple of places then what a mess. I am sure there is no requirement to leave it there but why not just call the customer and say we have it, is it a problem for you??? Just my take on this. Jim Steve Gregory <[log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] M> cc: Sent by: TechNet Subject: [TN] Adhesive where no component is loaded... <[log in to unmask]> 05/14/03 12:28 PM Please respond to "TechNet E-Mail Forum."; Please respond to SteveZeva Hi All! The fun never ends... I've been involved in a rather heated (albeit silly, I think...) debate with an inspector here, about adhesive being deposited where there is no component loaded. As you may surmise from my posts over the past few days, I stencil epoxy, not dispense. For some reason, the issue has come up with one of my inspectors here, requesting that I get something in writing from our customer saying that it's okay to have epoxy deposits at locations where there is no component loaded. I told her that I wasn't going to do it because I didn't want to look silly asking our customer if it was okay to have a glue dot at a location that's not loaded. Her reasoning is that we're putting something on the board that's not being called out on the bill of material. My response is that the epoxy isn't called out anyway, but we have to use it to be able to process this board that has PTH and SMT on the bottom. "But there's no component there, so there shouldn't be any glue there." was her response. "But it doesn't make any difference, it's a non-issue" I calmly replied. We've been debating this for 2-days now, and I'm about at my wits end. There's nothing in the -610 or the J-STD-001 that says it's defect, or that it's forbidden to deposit epoxy where a component isn't loaded, and there's nothing in the documentation from our customer to keep the unused areas free from epoxy. I've already spent much more time on this issue than I ever thought I would. Why this issue has popped-up now, I don't have a clue. Me thinks it's much ado about nothing. What is your take on this issue? -Steve Gregory- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -----------------------------------------------------