With a tinned wire, pull test results will be all over the place, due to the wire resting in different spots in the termination piece to piece... Get ahold of MIL-T-7928... good ring terminal bible. Regardless of the make, we subject all UL and MIL ring terminals in house to MIL-7928 test criteria. ... doesn't 610-B also have some info on this subject? -John Grabski III Eng. Dept. Badger Technologies, Inc. www.badgertech.com -----Original Message----- From: Phil Nutting [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:00 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] tined wire with insulated lug Jean-François, This is something I brought up back in May of 2002. Look for "Crimped Connections" in the subject line. There should be about 12 posts following this thread in the Archives. To add more input, I have a document from Amp (now Tyco) Engineering stating that pre-tinning stranded wire before crimp termination is not acceptable. I can send it to you if you'd like. I've had to battle the "we've always done it this way" attitude along with the notion that they are running "a lot of current" through the connection. My answer to that is, hope you're not running more current than the pin or lug was designed for. Good luck, Phil Nutting -----Original Message----- From: Bissonnette, Jean-Francois [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:02 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] tined wire with insulated lug Hi All, I'm trying to find acceptance criteria for crimped lugs. Is it acceptable to have a pre-tined wire crimped in a ring terminal? Since the wire is tined, it won't compress as much as it would if wasn't. Can that cause reliability problems? Jean-François Bissonnette Vérificateur, Contrôle de la Qualité Électronique Produits et Procédés Vapor Rail Inc. 10655 Henri-Bourassa O. St-Laurent, Qc H4S 1A1 (514) 335-4200 x2021 (514) 335-4231 fax ***** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE ***** The content contained in this e-mail transmission is legally privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named herein. If the reader of this transmission is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this transmission is strictly prohibited. --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -----------------------------------------------------