Check with the IPC, I think it is still available from their bookstore. The pictures are nice and clear when you buy an original copy. ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: YRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCLBDXRQBGJSNBOHMKHJYFMYXOEAIJJPHSCRTNHGSW To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [TN] Small spots on etch line > Hi All, > > I just rediscovered IPC-PE-740, Troubleshooting for Printed Board > Manufacture and Assembly, and Plasma Hole Preparation starts on page 91. > > The subcommittee reads like a who's who of the industry including several > frequent TechNet contributors - Patricia Goldman (Chair) and Susan Mansilla. > > Connie & Randy, I'll burn a ROM and bring ya copy next week. IHS is getting > me a better copy than what's currently in their system - the bloody photos > are blobs due to the scanning but it's a start. > > Hans > > You can run . . . but you'll only die tired. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Hans M. Hinners > AC-130 Systems Engineer (Hardware) > Warner Robins Air Logistics Center (WR-ALC) > 226 Cochran Street > Robins AFB, GA 31098-1622 > Tele: (478) 926 - 5847 [DSN Prefix: 468] > Fax: (478) 926 - 4911 > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > -----Original Message----- > Wrom: ZIDREXCAXZOWCONEUQZAAFXISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHP > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:07 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] Small spots on etch line > > > Randy, > > You might want to take the cross section that the pictures came from and > perform a horizontal section to give you a better look as to if it is fibers > and there origin > Scott B. Westheimer > General Manager, Gultech North Carolina, Inc. > 5800 McHines Place > Raleigh, North Carolina 27616 > Phone: (919)872-0100 > Fax: (919)713-4849 > Toll Free: 1-866-GULTECH > Email: [log in to unmask] > http:///www.gultechna.com > ----- Original Message ----- > Wrom: QQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLB > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:42 PM > Subject: Re: [TN] Small spots on etch line > > > > Thanks Susan, > > We will check this tomorrow! I'll let everyone know the out come! Right > > now we are pulling our hair out here! As a alternate supervisor of this > > shop and have never had to deal with this and uppers, wanting production. > > I'm just pull things out of the air, trying to figure this out. > > > > Thanks for all the help from everyone! > > Randy > > > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:13:24 EST, [log in to unmask] wrote: > > > > >Randy > > >Are you seeing these "spots" in the as polished condition prior to > > >microetching the mount" ? If you are, it can usually mean that there is > > >contamination there that has been plated around. That would help in > trying > > >to find out what it is. > > > > > >Another thing you can do with your process is to take your panels through > > >drill and etchback processing and then instead of going through the > > >electroless line - put them through the oxide line. The metallic areas - > > >ends of inner layers - should all darken with the oxide. If there is > resin > > >or non-metallic areas on the ends of the inner layers they won't be > coated > > >with the oxide. > > > > > >The fact that there is an indentation in the inner layer where the "ball" > > is > > >located really is a concern when trying to troubleshoot what is > happening. > > >If the glass bundles are laying on top the inner layer and are being > plated > > >around, I wouldn't expect to see the indentation - almost as though they > > > have > > >been forced into the end of the inner layer. > > > > > >Susan Mansilla > > >Robisan Lab > > > > > ><font size="2">---------------------------------------------------<br> > > >Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV > 1.8e<br> > > >To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > > >the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet<br> > > >To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to > > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)<br> > > >To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to > > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest<br> > > >Search the archives of previous posts at: > > http://listserv.ipc.org/archives<br> > > >Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for > additional > > >information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 > > ext.5315<br> > > >-----------------------------------------------------<br></font> > > > > > > > <font size="2">---------------------------------------------------<br> > > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV > 1.8e<br> > > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet<br> > > To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)<br> > > To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest<br> > > Search the archives of previous posts at: > http://listserv.ipc.org/archives<br> > > Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional > > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 > ext.5315<br> > > -----------------------------------------------------<br></font> > > --------------------------------------------------- > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) > To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest > Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives > Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 > ext.5315 > ----------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------- > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) > To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest > Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives > Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > ----------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -----------------------------------------------------