I'm LMAO too!!! I have a hard time understanding what Earl has posted, that really offends people...

Are there really people on this list that get offended by a few of the adjectives that have been used on the list? I have used a few myself, it sometimes makes a better point than "tip-toeing" around what one is trying to communicate... I thought we were all adults here, and could assimilate the communication from each other, without "tattle-tailing" to Jack so that he needed to respond to the list as a whole.

My point being, is that if someone has a problem with anybody, have the BALLS to respond and communicate to that person individually, you may learn something, and may just learn something about why they communicate in the manner they do...Earl has not offended me in the slightest.

Myself, I think that Earl tells it like it is. He is a "floor-rat" like I am, and a lot of us are. We are the ones that are tasked to build things that people above us commit to, but don't have a clue what is involved. That's why he has spent a LOT of time trying to document DFM/CE so that all us "floor-rats" have some light at the end of the tunnel, and can be sure that it's not a train coming towards us.

To all those that have complained to Jack, I wish you would leave this list and go someplace else where you won't be offended, rather than lose Earl as a contributor.

Those that have complained to Jack, probably haven't contributed anything...they've just lurked and have thrown stones when they've seen an opportunity.

It would be interesting to see if they have the "back-bone" to post and state their concerns of why it was necessary to complain...I know it won't happen.

There are people that only complain and never contribute...

Earl, you gotta know we'll stay in touch...

-Steve Gregory-


LMAO

-----Original Message-----
From: Unk Eng [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:12 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] I'm gone again


This is the longest good-bye in the history of theatre....... you guys must
have all sorts of free time on your hands.

I had a moment or two as well and wanted to end Earl's time with us by
remembering those immortal words by Mr. George Carlin:


"I love words. I thank you for hearing my words. I want to tell you
something about words that I uh, I think is important. I love..as I say,
they're my work, they're my play, they're my passion. Words are all we have
really.
We have thoughts, but thoughts are fluid. You know, [humming]. And, then we
assign a word to a thought, [clicks tongue]. And we're stuck with that word
for that thought. So be careful with words. I like to think, yeah, the same
words that hurt can heal. It's a matter of how you pick them.
There are some people that aren't into all the words. There are some people
who would have you not use certain words. Yeah, there are 400,000 words in
the English language, and there are seven of them that you can't say on
television. What a ratio that is. 399,993 to seven. They must really be bad.
They'd have to be outrageous, to be separated from a group that large. All
of you over here, you seven. Bad words. That's what they told us they were,
remember? 'That's a bad word.' 'Awwww.' There are no bad words. Bad
thoughts. Bad Intentions.

And words, you know the seven don't you? Sh*t, P*ss, F*ck, C*nt, C*cks*ck*r,
M*th*rf*ck*r, and T*ts, huh? Those are the heavy seven. Those are the ones
that will infect your soul, curve your spine and keep the country from
winning the war.

Sh*t, P*ss, F*ck, C*nt, C*cks*ck*r, M*th*rf*ck*r, and T*ts, wow. T*ts
doesn't even belong on the list, you know. It's such a friendly sounding
word. It sounds like a nickname. 'Hey, T*ts, come here. T*ts, meet Toots,
Toots, T*ts, T*ts, Toots.' It sounds like a snack doesn't it? Yes, I know,
it is, right. But I don't mean the sexist snack, I mean, New Nabisco T*ts.
The new Cheese T*ts, and Corn T*ts and Pizza T*ts, Sesame T*ts Onion T*ts,
Tater T*ts, Yeah. Betcha can't eat just one. That's true I usually switch
off . But I mean that word does not belong on the list.

Actually, none of the words belong on the list, but you can understand why
some of them are there. I am not completely insensitive to people's
feelings. You know, I can dig why some of those words got on the list...like
c*cks*ck*r and m*th*rf*ck*r. Those are...those are heavy-weight words.
There's a lot going on there, man. Besides the literal translation and the
emotional feeling. They're just busy words. There's a lot of syllables to
contend with. And those K's. Those are aggressive sounds, they jump out at
you. C*cks*ck*r M*th*rf*ck*r C*cks*ck*r . It's like an assault, on you. So I
can dig that.

And we mentioned sh*t earlier, of course. Two of the other 4-letter
Anglo-Saxon words are P*ss and C*nt, which go together of course. But forget
about that. A little accidental humor there. P*ss and C*nt. The reason P*ss
and C*nt are on the list is that a long time ago certain ladies said 'Those
are the two I am not going to say. I don't mind F*ck and Sh*t, but P and C
are out. P and C are out.' Which led to such stupid sentences as 'OK, you
F*ck*rs, I am going to tinkle now.'

And of course the word F*ck. The word F*ck, I don't really...well, this is
some more accidental humor, but I don't really want to get into that now.
Because I think it takes too long. But I do mean that. I mean, I think the
word f*ck is an important word. It's the beginning of life, and, yet it's a
word we use to hurt one other, quite often. And uh, people much wiser than I
have said, I'd rather have my son watch a film with two people making love
than two people trying to kill one other. And I of course agree. I wish I
know who said it first, and I agree with that. But I would like to take it a
step further. I would like to substitute the word f*ck, for the word kill in
all those movie cliches we grew up with. 'Okay Sheriff, we're gonna f*ck ya
now. But we're gonna f*ck ya slow.' So maybe next year I'll have a whole
f*ckin' rap on that word. I hope so.

Uh, there are two-way words, but those are the seven you can never say on
television. Under any circumstances you just can not say them ever, ever
ever, not even clinically. You can not weave them in the panel with Doc and
Ed and Johnny, I mean it's just impossible, forget those seven, they're out.

But, there are some two-way words. There are double-meaning words. Remember
the ones your giggled at in sixth grade? 'And the cock crowed three
times.''Hey, the cock the cock crowed three times. It's in the bible.' There
are some Two-way words, like it's okay for Kirk Goudy to say 'Roberto
Clemente has two balls on him.' But he can't say, 'I think he hurt his b*lls
on that play Tony, don't you? He's holding them. He must have hurt them by
God.' And the other two-way word that goes with that one is pr*ck. It's okay
if it happens to your finger. Yes, you can prick your finger, but don't
finger your pr*ck. No, no."




>From: Earl Moon <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: "TechNet E-Mail Forum." <[log in to unmask]>,   Earl Moon
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] I'm gone again
>Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:22:27 -0500
>
>Henry and all you folks I care about, let me try to do this right.
>
>Bill C. has it right as does Jack. I broke the rules and that's plain and
>simple. However, I'm not sorry as I was trying to grab attention to stuff
>we
>all should be focusing on, in my opinion, and not myself - believe it or
>not. I have not been trying to hog time on this vital forum. I've just
>been,
>as always, been trying to shake it up for all our benefit.
>
>The rules are the rules. No matter how many of you support me and my
>rantings, the rules are the rules and I respect them. However, I have a
>real
>problem as I have always broken the rules short of being illegal to get
>people to WAKEUP. Hell, oops, I am the last person claiming to have all the
>answers let alone but a few learned the hard way in the shops cleaning
>boards and such.
>
>I just think too many people are missing opportunities to do it right the
>first time instead of having to ask the same questions over and over again
>about defect instead of prevention. Where's the DFM/CE?
>
>I care about you all but so what? We all have something to give to the
>improvement process and this is the best place to do it.
>
>With that I leave with nothing but positive feelings and a new future but
>what future isn't,
>
>Earl Moon


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