I'm working my third week end attempting to make my Intel P4 upgrade work. Never mind the MS OS and Office crap, I just would like to know what, on that two ton massive heat sink, Intel uses to to dissipate heat. It is a film/tape medium as it rubs of on my finger tips. It makes sense that it is highly carbon loaded as it is such a good thermal transfer mechanism. I have about two grand in this crap build after having replaced the Intel crap mother board with my old standby Asus variety with much easier install stuff. I love and have used my P3 stuff for over a year now but must move up. Damn this crap anyway. Anyway, does anyone have a line on what Intel places on the heatsink to dissipate heat and can I use a thermal grease or other tape that works "equally" as well? I sure as hell don't want to buy another Intel P4 processor just to get the heat sink crap thing. MoonMan --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------