This answer got posted to the wrong reply: Jack, Again, new guy my ass (again meant as a compliment), it is pretty simple depending on how new you are, or me for that matter. It ain't magic, black or otherwise. It is proven stuff. As you have indicated to me VERY CLEARLY you don't need my book. I'm sorry as it puts me to sleep as well. However, most of the answers you seek, concerning this issue and many more, are in it. Also, I work with anyone for free as I have so clearly demonstrated over the years but I can just go so far on this forum and, to cover some minor costs as more that 20 years writing the damn thing, I must charge an amount just cover my dumb ass (not meant as a compliment to me but reality is what it is). I cannot answer even a few questions as is evidenced by my stumbling efforts on this fine forum. However, the folks buying my book, or not, on this forum work concurrently and do a pretty good job, Come on in Jack, Earl --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------