It took two weeks and 490 miles of driving but the P4 is working. Got rid of the Intel MB and installed my favorite Asus MB. Had to buy a copper heat sink big hog thing weighing in at about fifty pounds and applied a little grease and up she came. Worst two computer weeks I ever spent. Intel's BIG TIME PATTENTED heat sink ran at over one hundred degrees. My replacement heatsink runs at sixteen or more degrees less. The big thing though is, the system came up with only about thirty minute's work compared to two weeks. What crap all this proprietary crap, MoonMan --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------