Jack, new guy my ass (meant as a compliment), my question remains - IS THIS A SCAM?. I have used both Valor, at over one hundred grand a pop, and CAM350, for about one tenth the cost but with far fewer features, for years. Valor likes what I like and that is Allegro. Allegro is capable of outputting both Gerber and ODB. Valor is capable of importing, examining, and converting Gerber into ODB or so it has worked for me for years. Again, is this a scam? Earl --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------