I'm with you Blair, one look at those pictures and you gotta wonder what is going on at On. > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hogg, Blair K. > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:12 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] MUX Failures...an update to the last update > > > That's it - blame the test operation. It's not like we should > build quality into the parts, we test it in! > > Sorry for the rant, just have heard that too many times > before and the hair on my neck stood up when I read it. > > Blair Hogg > QA Manager > GAI-Tronics Corp > > -----Original Message----- > From: Creswick, Steven [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:17 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] MUX Failures...an update to the last update > > > All, > > I am sorry, but if these X-rays were taken BEFORE > encapsulation removal, I do not see how the manufacturer has > ANY leg on which to stand! This does NOT have the appearance > of ESD, or EOS damage - it is just flat out poor > manufacturing control at the die and wire bonding operation > ... period! Or, more accurately...poor control at the final > test station! > > You could always ship the remaining un-mounted parts to an > x-ray house for inspection before mounting. At least you > would not have as much re-work hassle. Looks like they will > be easy enough for a person with only a high school education > to pick out. > > They screwed up!!! Period! > > Steve Creswick - Gentex Corporation > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Gregory [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:20 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] MUX Failures...an update to the last update > > > > So Earl, > > We all see that, how do you address this problem with the > OEM? I ask that question subjectively... > > You have to know that we've already done that, and we're > being blamed for handling....hehehe. > > This is the "Kobiashu Maru" scenario that I spoke of earlier. > This is a no-win scenario. On Semiconductor will have all > their legal staff (which is more substantial than most of us > ever have) to support their position that their parts are > okay...so we have to deal with it. We'll eat all the costs > that we will incur from their sub-standard processes and > won't be able to do anything about it... > > As a note, comparible Fairchild MUX's work GREAT!!! > > (that's been backed-up by test data...) > > -Steve Gregory- > > In a message dated 8/28/2002 7:56:33 PM Central Daylight > Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > > > > > again, possible wire bond crash and burn. something's amiss > in the process. > > MoonMan > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > ----- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC > using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to > [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the > subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or > (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE > mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of > previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please > visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for > additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at > [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > ----- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > ----- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC > using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to > [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the > subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or > (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE > mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of > previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please > visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for > additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at > [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > ----- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------- > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using > LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to > [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the > subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or > (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE > mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of > previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please > visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for > additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at > [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------