Kenny, That's the spirit. Let's get to it and, of course, I will. I had the reverse done so I could speek/speak, which is it now (hell, it even affects my writing), better Chinese. Actually, I'd really like to know from a fine Chinese person, that's had the "procedure" to find his or her input. Really good stuff Kenny but have you concluded why this is being done - really? This all sounds like a peaceful way to co-exist and concurrently co-operate with us in this country. Could there possibly be anyother reason? I sure have to know more before my upcoming trip to the "big" country. Earl --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------