Jana, Some of those things are even mine. Really amazing but I really like the way IPC, in only the past few years, has improved its graphics. Again, mine ain't always that perty, but their mine and they're good and they are damn free to anyone to promote better PCB stuff, etc. I, now as never before after the last 5 years or so, recommend everyone joing IPC and benefit from their much improved documentation. Some of it really gets the job done and people like Werner contribute greatly to IPC's success while, I assume, making a profit as well. I'm not even looking for profit. I just don't want to give away the book entirely. On it goes, Earl --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------