Thanks all for the input At least I know I'm not alone on this issue. Now I get to deal with the Production and Scheduling folks. Don't they just love it when us QA give them some thing else to "watch out" for. As an aside Just got back an FA from a CAP manufacture for some "chip outs" we had a few months ago. These were seen after reflow mostly and some in the reels as well. Their conclusion was moisture intrusion during the initial stages of part manufacturing. There solution was to add a bake cycle prior to appling the end caps. have a good weekend all --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------