Industry is pretty well standardised on HIC's. Don't know the calibration procedure but they work very well for the simple job expected. You're placing way to much on the operators when expecting THEM to bake when they don't know for sure. They must contact their manufacturing support engineer who's responsibilities include what you presented pertaining to 033 and JEDEC requirements. The manufacturing engineer must direct the process based on sound decisions. Again, the specified requirements, tools, equipment, and procedures are pretty straightforward. MoonMan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francois Monette" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:27 AM Subject: [TN] Vacuum sealing equipment > Ioan, > > The protection comes from the combination of the sealed Moisture barrier bag > with the desiccant. > > As far as when to bake, the standard does specify that it should always be > based on the status of the HIC. I am including the applicable references > from J-STD-033 : > > Ref : 8.1.1 Upon receipt : "If openings are found, the humidity indicator > card (HIC) should be read to determine the proper recovery action" > > Ref : 8.5.1 Excessive humidity in the dry pack : "...The following > conditions apply regardless of the storage time, i.e., whether or not the > shelf life has been exceeded (this is the one year from seal date minimum > shelf life)...If the 10% RH dot is blue, the parts are still adequately > dry...If the 8% RH is pink and the 10% RH dot is not blue, the components > have been exposed to an excessive level of moisture, and drying must be > done..." > > The real problem right now is that not all suppliers use the proper kind of > HIC (i.e. with 8%RH and 10%RH dots). My personal recommendation would be to > play it safe and to keep things simple for your operators. Ask them to bake > parts when in doubt about the status of the HIC. > > François Monette > Cogiscan Inc. > Tel : 450-534-2644 > Fax : 450-534-0092 > E-mail : [log in to unmask] > www.cogiscan.com > > > > Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 10:50:34 -0400 > From: "Tempea, Ioan" <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Vacuum sealing equipment... > > So Fran=E7ois, > > you are basically saying that the desiccant is the main preservative. = > Then, > is the humidity indicator the only factor on which we base the decision = > "to > bake or not to bake"? > Even if the bag is punctured, if the indicator is not pink, no bake? > > Thanks, > Ioan > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL > To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest > Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives > Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------