RE: [TN] FPBGA Area Ratio QuestionHi Alejandro, Thanks for the reply. In your calculation it looks like you used the area of the stencil aperture as the numerator. However, the formula in the IPC document uses the area of the pad (land) as the numerator. That is how I came up with my numbers. For example: 1. Square aperture of .013" with .005" thick stencil plate: Area of .014" diameter pad = .000154 Area of walls = .00026 Area ratio = .000154/.00026 = .592 2. Square aperture of .012" with .005" thick stencil plate: Area of .014" diameter pad = .000154 Area of walls = .00024 Area ratio = .000154/.00024 = .642 Should the formula really use the aperture area instead of the pad area? Thanks. Bob ======================= Robert Barr Manufacturing Engineering Formation, Inc. Voice: 856-234-5020 x3035 Fax: 856-234-6679 -----Original Message----- From: Becerra Alejandro [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:41 PM To: 'TechNet E-Mail Forum.'; 'bbarr' Subject: RE: [TN] FPBGA Area Ratio Question Bob, I calculate the area ratio using a 5 mil stencil and my numbers do not agree with yours. 1. Square aperture of 0.013". Area of Aperture = 0.000169. Area of Lateral Walls = 0.013 X 4 X 0.005 = 0.00026. Area Ratio = 0.000169/0.00026 = 0.65. 2. Square aperture of 0.012". Area of Aperture = 0.000144. Area of Lateral Walls = 0.012 X 4 X 0.005 = 0.00024. Area Ratio = 0.000144/0.00024 = 0.60. If you take into account the radiused corners the area ratio may be lower. I calculate for the option 1 (with radiused corner of 0.003") and it was 0.68. When you reduce the size of the apertures with the same stencil thickness the area ratio is reduced (not increased) Regards, Alejandro Becerra -----Original Message----- From: bbarr [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:40 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] FPBGA Area Ratio Question On a fine pitch BGA (.8mm pitch, 384 balls, .5mm ball diameter) I am using a .014" diameter land per TI's recommendation. I was thinking then of a .013" square stencil aperture with .003" radiused corners on a 5 mil plate. This seemed reasonable until I did an area ratio calculation per IPC-7525. The result was .592, which fails compared to the acceptable value of >.66. The aspect ratio is a solid 2.6, although IPC says I should not consider aspect ratio in this case, only area ratio. If I reduce down to a .012" square aperture I can get to an area ratio of .642. Still fails, but close. But, reducing the aperture 2 mils compared to the pad seems extreme and violates the recommendation in para. 3.2.2.4. So my question is, what do you guys and gals use for an aperture design on a component like this? Do you go by the IPC guidelines? Thanks. Bob ======================= Robert Barr Manufacturing Engineering Formation, Inc. Voice: 856-234-5020 x3035 Fax: 856-234-6679 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------