Sure you're right Dave. Maybe now that fewer people have jobs or, at least, poorer paying ones, they'll set the needed precedence. The car makers keep missing the mark though. Used to be able to buy simple cars, with lower price tags, and better fuel economy. Now they make, as you say, what they think people want. I'm in Montana now, for a short time, and traveling here across the mid-west I couldn't count the new oil wells and gas farms operating. Unemabinable millions of tons of coal move every day out of Colorado and Wyoming on mile long trains running constantly. We have all the resources here needed for some time even though fuel cell cars are needed but, as another wise contributor said, someone will put a stop to that soon enough. Don't like the hybrid cars much but seeing many more of them out there. Newer models, with heavy dependency on electics and electronic innovations. I like the focus this brings. A long story about a long journey to our survival on a long road that may be shortened after all. MoonMan --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------