Bill, I got to get me an new vortex. I'll do it any day now. Hell, as I remember when an engine builder, there's quite a tornadic effect inherent to good engine design. Something about volumetric efficiency and flame stuff. Have you all seen the ads for the new improved Viper? It's a 500 hp, 500 cid, 500 lb/ft torque monster. I really would loved to had one of those in my carefree motorcycle, flying, and 496 and 455 days. Now, I'm amazed to say, my favorite car is my hail dented Honda Accord with over 100000 miles and still going strong. The amazing thing is the quality and technological innovations. I'm getting another one if it ever breaks but doubt that seriously. MoonMan --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------