Bill, No matter what anyone says, these are very sick economic times. Never, in all my 5 or so recessions have is experienced this. I don't blame anyone for trying to make a buck but it's totally out of hand. It's gone too far and, as sad as it sounds, someone needs to do something. I hope it's not big brother but if so, so be it. There are predators out there amongst, mostly, the poorest people who are unarmed against such an onslaught. I can tell you some really "exciting" war stories about my extensive travels to some of the most primitive of places - right here in the good old USA. Free enterprise for sure, just find a way to get rid of the vermon that keeps multiplying exponentially. I'd just like us all to have the cojones to stop driving for just one damn day and see the oil producers' eyes roll back in their heads for busted profits. Same might work for TV viewers and eaters of big mac crap. Steve hit a vital nerve. Too many people taking advantage of too many others. I just want to know where and when the next honest technology is to take place. I'll put my money, what little there is, on the Caterpillars of the world because we need food, not more highways jam packed with SUV's and million dollar buses. We need to get real serious about technology - the next time around. Enough of this crap spawned by .com's. Earl --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------