You have more than one Quality Manager? I pity you, my friend. One is more than enough. I would like to share our information with you, and can do that either here or off-line. Would like to see yours as well. e.g., "I'll show you mine if you show me yours". Unfortunately, our data collection system does not separate defects based upon the process that created them, a problem I have been trying to get fixed for some time. I can give you our overall defect rates, but cannot tell you that hand soldering has a specific defect rates, THT has a specific rate, SMT has a specific rate, etc. Most of our boards with SMT on them also have thru-hole, and we don't separate the defects between processes there, either. I fear that this may be an issue with ISO9000:2000. Anyway, would be glad to help, let me know how you want to handle it. Blair Hogg Quality Manager GAI-Tronics Corp. -----Original Message----- From: Dieselberg, Ron [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:57 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] One of our Quality Managers has asked me to quiz the TechNet for information on solder defect rates. We think we are pretty good and want to compare against others in the industry. He has asked for rates for hand soldering and also machine (automatic) soldering. We deal in two basic product lines; IR products and Space/Communications. Any information regarding solder defect rates in the hand soldering and or automatic soldering areas would be appreciated. Thank you. Ron Dieselberg Trainer/Auditor CMC ELECTRONICS CINCINNATI [log in to unmask] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5315 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------